tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553457216067299334.post580825131797511155..comments2024-03-21T21:07:51.635-04:00Comments on All things 787: Boeing asked to pay for Air India's mistakes and ineptitudeUreshhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10277326957559578045noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553457216067299334.post-84706286326362830192012-06-05T12:53:52.588-04:002012-06-05T12:53:52.588-04:00Now confirmed via Matt Cawby's twitter that JA...Now confirmed via Matt Cawby's twitter that JA811A is at the fuel dock.Michael Lowreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01252957908283886399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553457216067299334.post-33022625872562374842012-06-05T10:06:24.889-04:002012-06-05T10:06:24.889-04:00Yes that is what I suspect though I'm trying t...Yes that is what I suspect though I'm trying to get confirmation on that.Ureshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10277326957559578045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553457216067299334.post-28332120232691926102012-06-05T10:02:00.348-04:002012-06-05T10:02:00.348-04:00Another painted ANA 787 at the fuel dock yesterday...Another painted ANA 787 at the fuel dock yesterday in Matt Cawby's flight line video. Would have to be ZA 508/LN 51.Michael Lowreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01252957908283886399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553457216067299334.post-81985176448164726422012-06-05T06:20:43.084-04:002012-06-05T06:20:43.084-04:00Looks like ZA236/LN35 is scheduled for a customer ...Looks like ZA236/LN35 is scheduled for a customer flight today according to Matt Cawby. Also, you can see the rudder is now completely painted from his flightline video posted yesterday. Maybe there's been some progress...Henmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13349601501455151286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553457216067299334.post-80787552860944524852012-06-05T03:13:20.814-04:002012-06-05T03:13:20.814-04:00Oh and thanks for the great update again Uresh!!!!...Oh and thanks for the great update again Uresh!!!!!!!Joostdghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02418169821808809686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553457216067299334.post-31177789534326900122012-06-05T03:12:36.393-04:002012-06-05T03:12:36.393-04:00I think not actually. Sure they will have to pay s...I think not actually. Sure they will have to pay something. But 37 mil per plane is way too much. It will be closer to 250-300 mil total (around 10 mil per plane). And it isn't Boeing fault that they are in the current financial situation. And Boeing is not going to lose the difference (700 mil) by sitting this dispute out. This kind of stuff is handled in contracts. The only reason it has become a public war is that AI probably wants more then they get on contract basis. Boeing isn’t going to pay more the amount set in the contract plus a small relative bonus for face-saving purposes. Don’t forget AI gets these planes very cheap already. But maybe I’m proven wrong. We will see.Joostdghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02418169821808809686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553457216067299334.post-61089562808453490672012-06-04T18:31:05.240-04:002012-06-04T18:31:05.240-04:00If AI is screwed if Boeing doesn't deliver thi...If AI is screwed if Boeing doesn't deliver this fuel efficient aircraft, then I guess they have a very strong case for compensation for not having that aircraft sooner. <br />I think Boeing will have to pay up, $37million seems accurate and if they don't deliver the bill will be even higher.gagahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02397267261646267166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553457216067299334.post-24728515616140866602012-06-04T17:59:32.408-04:002012-06-04T17:59:32.408-04:00Yup that's about right.Yup that's about right.Ureshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10277326957559578045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553457216067299334.post-2122074918532552052012-06-04T17:49:04.043-04:002012-06-04T17:49:04.043-04:00Thanks Uresh! So if a plane isn't in the EMC,...Thanks Uresh! So if a plane isn't in the EMC, isn't in final assembly and isn't in final preps for delivery, is it probably just sitting waiting to get into the EMC?United787https://www.blogger.com/profile/07893194044353592539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553457216067299334.post-2054407659392734932012-06-04T17:43:02.328-04:002012-06-04T17:43:02.328-04:00EMC = Everett Modification Center this is where a...EMC = Everett Modification Center this is where all airplanes before LN 66 will go to be bought up to certification standard prior to delivery.Ureshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10277326957559578045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553457216067299334.post-74126707692973566852012-06-04T17:39:07.324-04:002012-06-04T17:39:07.324-04:00What is the EMC?>What is the EMC?>United787https://www.blogger.com/profile/07893194044353592539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553457216067299334.post-40315956691880285792012-06-02T08:53:36.748-04:002012-06-02T08:53:36.748-04:00Uresh, this is the picture I was referring to.
h...Uresh, this is the picture I was referring to. <br />http://paineairport.com/kpae5050.htm<br /><br />It was posted a few days ago on May 30. I think it does show the engine a little bit more clearly.johnv777https://www.blogger.com/profile/16349598403252209777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553457216067299334.post-63120696899243264542012-06-01T23:36:55.156-04:002012-06-01T23:36:55.156-04:00Yes I saw it but really can't tell if there ar...Yes I saw it but really can't tell if there are engines hanging off of it.Ureshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10277326957559578045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553457216067299334.post-12784366774169656132012-06-01T22:49:51.205-04:002012-06-01T22:49:51.205-04:00Uresh, another update for you. Matt published a p...Uresh, another update for you. Matt published a picture of JAL LN27 in the EMC on May 30. It appears to have engines attached, although they are wrapped in black.johnv777https://www.blogger.com/profile/16349598403252209777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553457216067299334.post-90723001026248029252012-06-01T22:20:21.998-04:002012-06-01T22:20:21.998-04:00Uresh, The location of LN# 7 mystery is solved. ...Uresh, The location of LN# 7 mystery is solved. Matt just posted a picture of LN#7 parked outside the EMC. Looks like a lot of activity going on with scaffolding under both the wings and the APU getting attention.johnv777https://www.blogger.com/profile/16349598403252209777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553457216067299334.post-2846745122731806512012-06-01T21:52:32.374-04:002012-06-01T21:52:32.374-04:00Ln 7 was pictured outside the emc today on pain fi...Ln 7 was pictured outside the emc today on pain field blogAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553457216067299334.post-49880518374715021912012-06-01T20:30:04.098-04:002012-06-01T20:30:04.098-04:00I'm pretty sure about LN 52. My source is ver...I'm pretty sure about LN 52. My source is very accurate about where these planes are and Matt took that picture yesterday. They had probably moved it into the EMC since then.<br /><br />As far as LN 58, I'm hearing that this plane might deliver to Qatar as early as the week of June 18th. I should know more next week.Ureshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10277326957559578045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553457216067299334.post-74875167198686078262012-06-01T19:41:21.220-04:002012-06-01T19:41:21.220-04:00Uresh,
Thanks for update. A couple of questions. ...Uresh,<br /><br />Thanks for update. A couple of questions. First, are you sure that LN 52 is in Bay D of the EMC. Matt Cawby has a picture of it being towed around to the fuel dock yesterday in what looks like a typical aircraft shuffle. Could the aircraft in the EMC instead be LN 53? <br /><br />Also, you list aircraft in five EMC bays -- two weeks ago, you had aircraft in six EMC bays!(Missing: Bay Z, which held LN 56 on May 14.)<br /><br />ZA461/LN 58 conducted radio checks today while on the flight line -- so maybe she does her B1 flight next week and then goes to Portland for paint?<br /><br />I refined my estimate on 747-8 deliveries for the: probably 32 or 33, slight chance it goes as high 35.Michael Lowreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01252957908283886399noreply@blogger.com